Comments on: Thoughts on New Creation Church – Balancing the Indicative and the Imperative – Part 3 http://www.stillhaventfound.org/2010/04/03/thoughts-on-new-creation-church-balancing-the-indicative-and-the-imperative-part-3/ declaring and bringing heaven here on earth Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:31:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: I’m No Longer Desperate. Are you? « IyasOStuff http://www.stillhaventfound.org/2010/04/03/thoughts-on-new-creation-church-balancing-the-indicative-and-the-imperative-part-3/#comment-117693 I’m No Longer Desperate. Are you? « IyasOStuff Mon, 17 May 2010 14:12:59 +0000 http://www.stillhaventfound.org/?p=820#comment-117693 [...] Http://stillhaventfound.org   [...] [...] Http://stillhaventfound.org   [...]

]]> By: stillhaventfound http://www.stillhaventfound.org/2010/04/03/thoughts-on-new-creation-church-balancing-the-indicative-and-the-imperative-part-3/#comment-115301 stillhaventfound Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:26:21 +0000 http://www.stillhaventfound.org/?p=820#comment-115301 Thanks for your comments Sarah, Cynthia and Tim. Tim, I’d be interested to know how you reconciled these differences :) Thanks for your comments Sarah, Cynthia and Tim.

Tim, I’d be interested to know how you reconciled these differences :)

]]> By: Tim http://www.stillhaventfound.org/2010/04/03/thoughts-on-new-creation-church-balancing-the-indicative-and-the-imperative-part-3/#comment-115075 Tim Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:56 +0000 http://www.stillhaventfound.org/?p=820#comment-115075 Another well articulated post, SHF, And I couldn't agree more :) I was reading 1 Cor 4 with a companion commentary, and the commentary wrote that in verse 7 there is one of the great statements on the doctrine of grace - 'What do you have that you did not receive?'. Paul's subsequent statement 'You are already full! You are already rich!' reveals what the finished work of Christ has already given us. The exhortations of the Apostle Paul to continually realise our identity and riches in Christ still need to be heard today. To digress a bit, for years I used to be much conflicted while reading the Psalms that contain David's cries for vengeance and retribution. I couldn't connect it to the NT teaching to love and pray for our enemies. Only when my eyes were opened to see the OT through a Christ-centered lens, was I able to reconcile these differences. Another well articulated post, SHF, And I couldn’t agree more :)

I was reading 1 Cor 4 with a companion commentary, and the commentary wrote that in verse 7 there is one of the great statements on the doctrine of grace – ‘What do you have that you did not receive?’. Paul’s subsequent statement ‘You are already full! You are already rich!’ reveals what the finished work of Christ has already given us. The exhortations of the Apostle Paul to continually realise our identity and riches in Christ still need to be heard today.

To digress a bit, for years I used to be much conflicted while reading the Psalms that contain David’s cries for vengeance and retribution. I couldn’t connect it to the NT teaching to love and pray for our enemies. Only when my eyes were opened to see the OT through a Christ-centered lens, was I able to reconcile these differences.

]]> By: Cynthia http://www.stillhaventfound.org/2010/04/03/thoughts-on-new-creation-church-balancing-the-indicative-and-the-imperative-part-3/#comment-114789 Cynthia Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:19:58 +0000 http://www.stillhaventfound.org/?p=820#comment-114789 Next to Pastor Prince, I believe Steve McVey is one of the most anointed teachers on grace. He wrote one of the most empowering grace-centred book - Grace Walk (Enjoying Life the Way God Intended), and recently, Walking In the Will of God (Discovering the Grace & Freedom of His Plan for You). I happen to be reading the latter, and it completely "blew my mind off" the old dogmas I used to be holding on to in relation to seeking after God's will for my life. No longer is it something mysterious, nebulous and formula-based; God's plan for our lives under the New Covenant is clearly revealed through Jesus Christ - our new identity! The most liberating part of it all is that in grace, the "burden" is on God and He will seek after us to do His very will through His word, our circumstances, other christians etc. Our role is to rest secure in this new identity (and the power that comes with it), believe that God is faithful to see His will accomplished in us and step out in bold faith attempting God-sized things and believing God-sized dreams to come to pass as we allow ourselves to be totally empowered by the indwelling spirit of Christ! God for us, God after us! Powerful and beautiful, isn't it? His fresh and biblical perspective on what it means to live in God's will makes want to read all his series focused on grace. I'm sure they will all be good!! Next to Pastor Prince, I believe Steve McVey is one of the most anointed teachers on grace. He wrote one of the most empowering grace-centred book – Grace Walk (Enjoying Life the Way God Intended), and recently, Walking In the Will of God (Discovering the Grace & Freedom of His Plan for You). I happen to be reading the latter, and it completely “blew my mind off” the old dogmas I used to be holding on to in relation to seeking after God’s will for my life. No longer is it something mysterious, nebulous and formula-based; God’s plan for our lives under the New Covenant is clearly revealed through Jesus Christ – our new identity! The most liberating part of it all is that in grace, the “burden” is on God and He will seek after us to do His very will through His word, our circumstances, other christians etc. Our role is to rest secure in this new identity (and the power that comes with it), believe that God is faithful to see His will accomplished in us and step out in bold faith attempting God-sized things and believing God-sized dreams to come to pass as we allow ourselves to be totally empowered by the indwelling spirit of Christ! God for us, God after us! Powerful and beautiful, isn’t it? His fresh and biblical perspective on what it means to live in God’s will makes want to read all his series focused on grace. I’m sure they will all be good!!

]]> By: sarah http://www.stillhaventfound.org/2010/04/03/thoughts-on-new-creation-church-balancing-the-indicative-and-the-imperative-part-3/#comment-114741 sarah Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:18:09 +0000 http://www.stillhaventfound.org/?p=820#comment-114741 Thanks for the post! Knowing, understanding, and appreciating that we already have these things is already winning half the battle. And it makes the other half seem less difficult. (: Thanks for the post!
Knowing, understanding, and appreciating that we already have these things is already winning half the battle. And it makes the other half seem less difficult.

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